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460 starter with dual batterys

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460 starter with dual batterys Ed anicker 1-19-02  
Put in a gear reduction starter haveing trouble as where to put sol. wire
Re: 460 starter with dual batterys Jd 1-20-02  
Put in a gear reduction starter haveing trouble as where to put sol. wire
Ed, I'm wondering why you did this. Of all the aggravations major and minor I've had with my 460-powered classC, the starter, which is stock, has been absolutely zero. And I crank with only one battery. Are the dual batts you refer to in the coach or on the chassis? My "one" I mentioned is on the chassis and I have two in the coach body. These are often called House Batteries and aren't usually used to crank. Many coaches can use them because of a pushbutton operated solenoid that connects them temporarily as a boost for the chassis battery. What year do you have, maybe my 1983 is different but my starter has no solenoid connection. Rather it uses a body-mounted solenoid that is operated by the key in Start position and only the battery cable is extended down to the starter. If your new starter has the large terminal for the battery cable and a smaller one to energize the solenoid, you could probably use the Start wire to the stock Ford solenoid and wire an extension down to the solenoid of the gear reduction starter. But be careful. In some years the stock solenoid also commanded the electric fuel pump to run during cranking. I wish I knew all those details but I don't and just hope you don't end up with good cranking but no fuel or even no fire. Can the manufacturer or vendor of the starter provide you with instructions or an adapter kit? God Bless, jd
Re: 460 starter with dual batterys Kent 1-20-02  
Put in a gear reduction starter haveing trouble as where to put sol. wire
Ed, I'm wondering why you did this. Of all the aggravations major and minor I've had with my 460-powered classC, the starter, which is stock, has been absolutely zero. And I crank with only one battery. Are the dual batts you refer to in the coach or on the chassis? My "one" I mentioned is on the chassis and I have two in the coach body. These are often called House Batteries and aren't usually used to crank. Many coaches can use them because of a pushbutton operated solenoid that connects them temporarily as a boost for the chassis battery. What year do you have, maybe my 1983 is different but my starter has no solenoid connection. Rather it uses a body-mounted solenoid that is operated by the key in Start position and only the battery cable is extended down to the starter. If your new starter has the large terminal for the battery cable and a smaller one to energize the solenoid, you could probably use the Start wire to the stock Ford solenoid and wire an extension down to the solenoid of the gear reduction starter. But be careful. In some years the stock solenoid also commanded the electric fuel pump to run during cranking. I wish I knew all those details but I don't and just hope you don't end up with good cranking but no fuel or even no fire. Can the manufacturer or vendor of the starter provide you with instructions or an adapter kit? God Bless, jd

Back in the mid-70's Ford used a Delco starter with the pull-in solenoid mounted on it, ala GMC line.
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