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Re: diesel vs gasoline school buses by patrick young
Post New Message I’ve owned about 60 buses. Both gas and diesel, and diesel generators, diesel cars, pickups, you name it.

Diesel equipment is better, that is simple, but not all diesel stuff if usable in the real world. I had a wonderful Izuzu I-Mark with a great little 1.8 diesel. But it had glow plugs, and those in my opinion suck, a lot. I’ve had a lot of problems with the asinine circuitry and endless relays and switches they put to allow us “automatic” self timed glow plugs like in the Mercedes, the Nissans and the I-mark. Parts for the I-mark were hard to find also, and for the SD22 Nissan, non-existent.

I only have diesel buses, because almost all quality buses have diesels installed in the first place. Crown and Gillig buses were running diesel since the late 50's, as were almost all long lasting and quality coaches like GMC.

Any bus you will find with a gas engine will not only be a cheaper and noisier bus to begin with, it will have you sitting about 5 feet behind a screaming gas motor.
when the coach builders went to diesel, a lot of them started putting them in the rear, in the center, anywhere but directly in front of the driver. It is a whole different level of comfort and was only done on the more expensive buses with chassises specifically built for this purpose.

A front engine gas bus is not junk. They are Very Cheap to buy and maintain, and are great for occasional stuff, or for a kid who is getting his first bus and doesn’t travel too much, etc. Their fuel mileage will be at least 3 mpg less than if they had a diesel, but unleaded is a little cheaper, so……
It's simple you get what you pay for, and that’s the way God (or was it Alexander Hamilton) made it.

Patrick Young
Gillig and Crown fan
Fresno, CA
(559) 251-3814
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