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Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Jay 12-29-04  
Western Horizon RV Membership is the worst membership ever. The parks are horrible, oh yeah and watch out for the hidden fees. The other parks included in the membership are some of worst and most expensive parks I ever been to. So check out other memberships before you get suckered into Western Horizon.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Carol R 12-30-09  
My husband and I purchased our membership in Texas in 2006. At that time, we were told we could stay free in WHR resorts across the country and we were also told that the $500 promisory note that we signed that would be forgiven if we got someone else to sign up would be extended an additional year. Well, when the year was up, guess what? There was no extension and the sales person was no where to be found. Also, it now costs 6.00 a night to stay because we have a long trailer even though it is a 30 amp. Also, the park in Rockport has had NO maintenance in the three years we have been here. The clubhouse roof leaks like a seive to the point that the floor is ruined. To top it off, this last year they have put an oil rig right in the middle of the park. Now that's what I really want to look at and listen to while I am relaxing in my RV, an oil rig. The road into the park is almost impassable and they have chased all the workers away who cared and actually do their jobs (the activity directors) and left the ones who don't do anything. I would also be interested in joining into a class action suit. I doubt we would get any thing out of it but would be able to stop them from robbing others.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Chuck 1-4-10  
I attended a meeting in 2008 at Indian Waters where Mr. Loken informed members they would be charged $2.00 to $3.00 for utility costs per night (depending on the length of their RVs) because of the increasing cost of electricity. To offset this cost, members would be receiving free Wi-Fi, which at the time was $2.00 per day. Today I am being charged up to $6.00 per night at WHR resorts and Wi-Fi is no longer free. I received an invoice today and noticed we are now being charged for making reservations.

I have memberships with CRA and Cost to Coast, who have not raised their prices.

Now I am told there are very few paid staff members. Volunteers perform most of the maintenance and activities. The volunteers are now being charged for some of their utilities and meals. I think this is the reason you see the poor condition at the parks, diminishing activities and all new volunteers.
Does anyone know how to get a list of WHR members?
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Richard Cadle 3-26-15  
I am looking for a Western Horizon Resort membership, If your fees are paid up I will pay you $1000 (the going price) and pay the $639 transfer fee.

Richard k7sjg@msn.com
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Bob 12-29-09  
As Coast to Coast members we frequently use Western Horizons properties for a week at a time. We have found them reasonably clean with polite staff. Although many do not live up to what I think of as a resort, we do not require a lot of ammenities in a park. We do like swimming pools and serviceable roads, and shade trees are appreciated as well. Otherwise, we do a lot of walking and local sightseeing out of the park. When C to C raised their fees $2.00 in '08, to cover the increased cost of electricity, I thought it reasonable, But now some parks tack on an additional fee for the same reason. What's up with that? I especially resent mandatory cable fees when I don't need cable service. I guess times are tough for all of us. I feel fortunate to be retired and able to travel when I want to.
Bob
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Don 12-11-09  
Has anyone noticed that you can't get many reservations EXCEPT at AOR rates? Seems to me they shrunk everything to force you into the $9 a night instead of the free/whr rates.
Then you get Tengonet that they charge $2 for that generally works for crud. If you take the 250 units that are average in this park and figure just half are using tengo they're collecting $250 for internet that's dog slow or doesn't work at all. You can't tell me that it costs them close to the $1000 a month they're collecting. Heck you could do park wide cable internet for less than that.
The biggest thing that's ticking me off is the total lack of available reservations even though the parks we've seen are ONLY half full.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Susan 11-12-09  
What is happening to WHR? My dues were supposedly frozen at $225/yr then a few years back a $20.00 fee was added for the reservation system. So now they are informing the members that a $2.00 per night fee for reservations/50 amp service/WiFi is needed besides the additional fee for electricity. You do wonder where the money is being used. I feel that Mr Loken has mismanaged the funds and is penalizing the members. There are certainly a lot of unhappy members and I can join them.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Lorayne 11-16-09  
I agree with all of the complaints listed. In Michigan, since Western Horizon took over the park near Newago in 2003, there has been nothing done to improve the facilities except the road into the park. The roads are still dirt in the resort, and generate dust whenever traffic goes by, not allowing us to have the windows open in the camper and have our camper filthy when we leave. I believe the concentration is to sell lots for lease and permanent homes instead of focusing on the RV campers. It is true regarding the billing. Last quarterly billing I had to call the districe office to get assistance. Again, no billing is sent for this quarter. Noone answers the phone, cannot leave a message; just have to call back. I believe the billings are not being sent out so if they're not paid, this will nullify the contract and we loose. Something to think about.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Bonnie 2-10-10  
We have been members since 2007. We were never told about the $1000 Promissory note until the final sale. We were asked to pass out referrals and in Az we would get a $100 fee. We contacted the Home Office and were told we couldn't get paid until our Note was paid off, then we would get the referral fee. Now we're told that they don't retro back for prior referrals. We were never told this before. What a Rip!

Besides the increases in fees and hassles with reservations and having to use AOR most of the time, now we have this dumped on us.

Whatever! We feel our money paid out for the membership is just a waste, an expensive one at that!

BUYER BEWARE!!!!!
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Bonnie 2-10-10  
We have been members since 2007. We were never told about the $1000 Promissory note until the final sale. We were asked to pass out referrals and in Az we would get a $100 fee. We contacted the Home Office and were told we couldn't get paid until our Note was paid off, then we would get the referral fee. Now we're told that they don't retro back for prior referrals. We were never told this before. What a Rip!

Besides the increases in fees and hassles with reservations and having to use AOR most of the time, now we have this dumped on us.

Whatever! We feel our money paid out for the membership is just a waste, an expensive one at that!

BUYER BEWARE!!!!!
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Anonymous 4-4-10  
We agree with all the above comments and will gladly join a class action lawsuit. Surely there must be one or two attorneys who are members? I believe the RV Dealers who promoted this scam could also be held liable for our lost investments. The basic problems seem to stem from the Loeken family's arrogance, dishonesty, greed and their worthless business model.

You can detect this arrogance, rudeness and stupidity in many of their representatives who now know the game is up.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Joan 4-12-10  
We have been waiting for the new California Horizon Parks for four years and still nothing new. Yes, we would be interested in joining a civil aaction.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Anonymous 4-4-10  
We agree with all the above comments and will gladly join a class action lawsuit. Surely there must be one or two attorneys who are members? I believe the RV Dealers who promoted this scam could also be held liable for our lost investments. The basic problems seem to stem from the Loeken family's arrogance, dishonesty, greed and their worthless business model.

You can detect this arrogance, rudeness and stupidity in many of their representatives who now know the game is up.
Western horizon not good bill 3-21-10  
Western horizons owns aor and he has a product he cannot sell as he has a ton of members that do not pay dues. he does not sell lots he leases lots, but that still taks away from the member sites. i have been told he is behind in taxes, and has investers that have not been paid for years. i am no longer a member and am very happy as this is this system is going down and i live in my tousand trail membership but they are changing what they do now. they are leasing lots, and not selling like they used to, now if you want a membership the best way to do this is buy a single park membership and upgrade it to a platnum and have everything for a lot less.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Chuck Underwood 3-1-10  
I purchased my WHR membership 8 years ago and was told that my $8,000 charge and yearly dues would allow me to have free site fees at all of their parks.

I attended a meeting in 2008 at Indian Waters in Indio, Cal. where Mr. Loken informed members they would be charging $2.00 to $3.00 a night for utility costs (depending on the length of our RVs) due to the increasing cost of electricity. To offset this cost to members, they would be adding free Wi-Fi. Today I am being charged up to $6.00 per night, depending on whether I want 50 amps. or have a dog, and Wi-Fi is no longer free. I received an invoice today and noticed we are now being charged for making reservations.

I have other campground memberships and they have not raised their prices and are not charging a nightly fee. I don't believe that members should have to pay for poor management practices by Mr. Loken and his family.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST O. J. (Nita) Littlefield 3-14-10  
Please BE SURE to count me in on a Class Action Lawsuit for being ripped off royally. I have been reading other posts, and every problem mentioned is identical to most of the ones I endured from the Western Horizons con artists.

When we signed a contract in early 2008 we were told by their salesman there was a WH park or an affiliate in every area where we traveled. We trusted him and signed. I paid $3,700 on a modified contract with monthly payments. Three days later we left Arizona. We looked into our membership catalogs after we left the state and discovered there were no WH parks or affiliates for our routes. We have not returned to the Arizona location and have never been able to use this bogus membership.

I grew weary of making telephone calls that went nowhere -- being told to call the Camp Verde, Arizona site where the contract originated, who then told me I had to call the Headquarters office in Gunnison, Colorado. Back and forth. The right hand never knowing what the left hand was doing. I called WH for many months while still making payments to no avail, so decided to stop making payments until WH addressed my complaints.

I received a Collections Notice and immediately called the number on the letter from their Collections Manager. (I later learned she had many other administrative titles). I was so relieved that somebody was FINALLY listening to me that, in frustration, I asked her to explain why I had been ignored by WH, except by their billing department.

Totally unprovoked, the Collections Manager became ballistic. I thought that either she had a very bad case of PMS or she was having withdrawal symptons from drugs! She had totally lost control of herself and she was totally irrational. I tried to calm her down, but she was screaming at me so loudly that she could not hear a word that I was saying. Then, she hung up on me. While still shaken and not wanting to have a stroke, I wrote a letter which I sent the next day to James Lukken, owner and CEO of Western Horizons. I complained about his strange employee, and promised to sue WH if I was reported to a Collection Agency. All I received in return was a personal letter offering a "buyout" which was not really a buyout at all. Just another scam to get more money.

Now we receive calls from a collections agency up to four times a week. We recognize this number so do not answer. I receive collection letters calculating that I still "owe" an additional $4,000 in membership fees, yearly fees and interest for the unpaid balance.

To date, I have not been reported as delinquent on my credit report. WH must be remembering that I promised to sue them if they do report me.

In all, I paid almost $5000 and deserve a full refund.

Nita Littlefield
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST GEORGE 11-9-09  
WE HAVE BEEN MEMBERS SENCE 2001 WE GO FROM PARK TO PARK, NEVER BEEN CHAHGED A RESOVACTION FEE BEFOR NOW 2$ A NIGHT WE JUST WERE HERE AT ST.DAVID 45 DAYS AGO NO FEE!!! WENT TO ROCKPORT NO FEE!!! CAME BACK TO ST.DAVID BAMB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2$A NIGHT RESERVATION FEE???????? THEY DONT KNOW FROM PARK TO PARK HOW TO DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A RIP OFF WHERE THE HELL IS ALL THIS MONEY GOING (IN SOME ONES POCKET) MAY NOT BE JIMS dont know wish all parks would talk to there members and set something down we all could agrea on????????
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Don 11-7-09  
I think I just got hoodwinked by park salesman and his wife, into buying a 5 yr membership. Now what happens if I don't pay them for my dirt patch with no wifi and cell and cable, 55 miles from nowhere.

Will they come and get my kids
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Connie 8-12-08  
My husband and I are very disappointed in WHR. We have been to two of the older parks (Ramona Canyon & Desert Pools) and a newer one, Charleston Peak. The older ones were run-down and just didn't feel like a "resort". Charleston is the nicest of the three and you do get a feeling of being in a "resort". With all the money collected by WHR, one would think they would do something about the old run-down buildings and swampy ponds, which are not attractive at all. Membership owners expect something a little more up-scale than this when they pay memberships. We are selling ours to anyone who wants it and I am sure we will probably have to give it away to get rid of it. What a mistake buying into this company. We feel like we made the biggest mistake ever when we gave WHR our money.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Maggie 9-16-08  
Ever since Western Horizons took over Allegany Mountain Resort in NY, all they have done is take our ammenities away one by one. They want us members to maintain the park in exchange for dues. You would end up making about.24/ hour. They have no idea what customer service is when you call either. They don't take care of their employees, so you have a bunch of ticked off workers with attitudes. I could go on and on.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Bobbie 5-3-08  
We got ripped off for 5000.00 because spouse got long term illness after one time. Sales person, manager and owner had promised us some refund if serious illness occured.
Contacted--refused to talk to us and now blacklisted.
DO NOT BUY WESTERN HORIZONS FOR ANY REASON.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Myrna 3-24-08  
I totally agree! Western Horizons IS THE WORST. They're also losing resorts. Check it out! There are no resorts in Texas anymore. They do not return phone calls, nor do they answer letters. I only hear from them when they want yearly dues. Promises with no follow through!
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Jim Harper 7-10-05  
Jay, I am looking a membership options, RPI, Coast to Coast,ROD, thousand trails, etc. Any suggestions?? thanks Jim
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Kirk 11-22-05  
Hmmm, I'm surprised to hear that. I wonder if there are just different standards for different areas of the country. The cost of the parks once you have a membership is only $6 per night, which is far from the most expensive I have seen. The parks aren't like golf courses with perfect grass and paved everything, but that type of thing is for old fogeys that drive their home and can't get around otherwise. Our kids absolutely love the things they include at their parks and we can't wait to go and visit more of them as we venture out more. As for the hidden fees, the only thing I have seen is that they have additional fees for increased costs for electricity of $1 per night. I have to admit I was a little taken back by that, but still $1 per night doesn't seem too bad in the whole scheme of things.
As for locations, there are several that are near places I would like to go to, although the park itself would not be my choice of destination. All too many private parks are right off the highway, have too few of trees, have no separation between the sights, and little real scenery to look at. I have to admit though, that there is only two of them I have stayed at for a couple of nights. The closest to us we have a lot of fun at and return every year, at least once.
Jay, if you are still around, maybe you could be more specific on what you have experienced and we can speak to the management about it.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST JAna 11-5-08  
I am sorry to hear some of these comments i have been a western horizon member since 1998 and we love every park we have been to yes the fee for electric has gone up but so has the price of everything. when we started the had only ten parks now they have over twenty romona canyon is all new because of the fires but all resorts that i have seen are fun with planned activities and dinners and lunches for cheap the lokken family is doing a great job and we are very happy with everything they hae done and i am sure they will do even more happy travels.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Susie 11-30-08  
I just heard that effective 12-1-08 Western Horizon Resorts WHR are going to start charging $2-3 per day to ROD and AOR members. This is for internet/free phone calls/utilities. You currently have the choice to buy internet and upgrade to 50 amp and don't most of us have cell phones, so now they are forcing us to pay the fees. I wonder if they have modified their contract with ROD and AOR. I would be willing to bet that ROD and AOR are going to get a lot of complaints about this. I'm not sure about Coast 2 Coast members. In addition I saw a notice that they are also starting to sell off rv lots to WHR members. Won't this reduce the number of sites available to WHR members?
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Tom 9-27-09  
We stayed a several WHR sites this past winter. It was our first time back since 2004 and we were quite disappointed that the resorts hadn't been improved at all since 2004. The roads at Desert Pools still had the same pot holes and poor lighting as before. Ramona Canyon had nothing new since we were there in 2004,staff was excellent though. Indio was the only resort that was really nice and we could only get a no sewer site at $8.00 a pump out. Casa Grande is just the same as 2001.Great activities though. Now sites that went for $6.00 in 2004 cost $15.00 and WIFI is spotty at best.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST GEORGE 10-20-09  
NOT ONLY HAVE THESE PARKS GONE TO HELL SO HAVE ALL THE PAID STAFF!!! LOKEN HAS CUT ALL PAID STAFFS HRS. AND NOW MOST OF THEM JUST BARELY DO THE JOB THERE PAID TO DO!! NOW IF YOUR GETTING PAID TO WORK NO MATTER HOW MANY HRS. DO IT AND DO IT WITH PRIDE DONT HAVE TO STEEL MONEY FROM THE SYSTEM BACAUSE YOUR MAD!!!! AND SIT ON THERE ASS!!!! YES THE PARKS HAVE BEEN SOLD AND NOT REPLACED AS IT SAYS THEY WILL BE IN MANY OF OUR CONTRACTS?? AND HE DAMN SURE DOESENT PUT MONEY IN THE ONES LEFT.... AND THEY FIRED MOST ALL THE VONELENTEERS,SO NOW IF YOU WANT TO WORK IN ANY PARK YOU HAVR TO PAY ELECT. ABOVE $40.00 AND A SITE FEE?????? WELL THATS COOL GEEE LET ME PAY TO WORK SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD DEAL HUH???? $5,000.00 TO $8,0000.00 FORA PLATUM PLUSS MEMBER SHIP AND THEN GET TO PAY TO WORK????? YES I WILL JOIN A CLASS SUIT TO GET HIM TO HONER HIS CONTRAC WITH ME!!!!!!
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Carolyn Thomas 5-7-09  
Our home park is in Rockport Texas and we have been a member for 9 years. We haven't gotten anything we were promised at our park. The park is falling down. We bought the cabin package and we can't ever get a room to stay in. We were promised new trailers that sleep six or more and we have yet to see one of them. Half of the land that were to be sites for these trailers are now beening sold to private owners. The one trailer that sleeps four is no longer in use because they said it would cost to much money to fix it up to be used. We pay our yearly dues and EXTRA fees but see nothing for them. I have tried to contact Jim Loken, but have not had any success. I tried by phone, email and a handwritten letter. I am frustrated and down right MAD. Let's get together and see if we can get this solved. Thank you
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Mike 4-4-09  
The fees have gone up to the point that I wonder why we paid so much up front. If the parks were better maintained it wouldn't hurt so much. I want to know where the money is going. WHR won't stop if we don't BAND TOGETHER and let him know we aren't going to take it. The parks depend on the workers and he has taken their perks away.
Does any one feel strongly enough to join in on a Civil Suit (or something) against WHR?
The fees went up 3-13-09 and are going up again in less than a month. We have to stop adding our money to Jim's personal pocket.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST tim 2-24-09  
Western Horizons is a total rip off. We paid over $8,000 but used our membership for only a few months before we just decided to abandon our membership. We refused to renew the following year, and have not paid any more annual re-up fees. We abandoned our WH, AOR, ROD memberships -- all of them a complete waste of time. I didn't even want to give away or try to sell someone this sham of a deal. We found that every single one of their dumpy "resorts" was a completely bogus waste of time. Substandard facilities, hookups that did not work, ramshackle accomodations, filthy, falling apart facilities. Unpaved roads within the RV parks, broken down sites, and in some cases, roads leading to their "resorts" were practically impassable because of zero maint. Western Horizons can barely deliver the bare essentials, let alone anything remotely resembling a resort. This is a classic bait and switch. Avoid them. We bought a lot at one of the Outdoor Resorts ($200,000) instead and absolutely love it.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Jim 3-19-09  
I doubt that the writer of the comment stating that Ramona Canyon is all new has ever been there in 2009.

Ramona Canyon did experience a fire, closed for a while and opened again. We visited there right after the fire and then again this winter. ALL NEW is not correct. All old, warn and in major need of repair is more like it.

The fire did burn some of the trees along the highway and that let some light in. But, when you are there look in the stream bed and see all of the fallen trees and dead brush just waiting to be the next source of a big problem.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Bill 5-30-10  
My biggest complaint is WHR allows & ratifies some extremely abusive, dictatorial behavior from some Managers & a H.O. employee.

I too, experienced WHR employee's screaming at us, for no reason:

1. 2010 Winter/Spring at Desert Pools.
Really rude employee & when reported to the Manager, she just screamed at us.

2. 1 year or so ago, H.O. employee screwed up & did not do what they said & when we questioned screamed at us like a poster above reported.

3. 3-5 years ago the Manager at WHR Indian Waters was, Jack. In October with park 4/5's empty, we looked for spots that we might choose from....
Jack went scary ballistic & when I tried to call H.O. to report he screamed they don't care, I can do whatever I want. He then proceeded to threaten us, saying he would wipe our reservation & all future reservations off the computer if we reported to H.O.. I heard some scary stories from other WHR members about this Jack, but he is still managing other WHR parks.

Obviously, WHR does nothing about these loose cannon employee's & ratifies there screaming & threatening members.

Long Time Whr Member
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Martha 1-13-10  
We also were members of Western Horizon in Conroe, Texas. We were sold numerous times this last one to a site in Abita Springs La.We were told they would never sell us over 150miles from original home sit.
We have no intention of ever going to this spot. we have stopped paying dues and are now getting calls from a collection agency saying they are going to put it on our credit. We are very interested in joining a class action suit also.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Shirley 2-23-12  
My concern is St David. Get rid of those darn speed bumps. Besides ruining our motor home they are like tank traps. It is bad enough the place is in dis- repair. Staff are great but at a disadvantage trying to make the place decent, which leads me to the decision to get out of the system permanently. To much underhanded things going on and the communication is not bad but down right lousy. No decent water pressure when it works, roads broken and at times atvs use it as a race track. Do the people there a favor and at least give them something to feel positive about. As far a law suits. worry about whats left of the system instead of worrying about your jobs. Membership pays your salaries, you work for us just do it.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Alfred Cushman 5-24-12  
FYI, Western Horizon Properties legal owner of WHR property owes $86,643.42 in back Property Tax to Yavapai County Arizona. Seems the county now has a Lein on the Camp Verde Resort. Hey Jim what's next, no power or water?
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Alfred Cushman 6-22-12  
FYI, Lynne is a paid Hooker on the WHR payroll. Her assignment is to discredit posts on any board that make WHR look bad in any way.
Lynne get a real job.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Gary Johnston 2-9-12  
I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER FOR OVER 5 YEARS WAS DRAWN IN TO THE SALES PITCH AT CASA GRANDE, AZ LOCATION. THE PARK WAS A HOT BED OF ACTIVITY. WE MISSED A COUPLE OF YEARS TRAVELING BUT WHEN WE DID WE HAD PROBLEMS GETTING A SPACE BECAUSE WE DID'NT MAKE A CALL SOON IN TIME. THEY WERE SOOTY. WE DID USE OTHER PARKS IN THE AZ AT SALOME AND HAD A GREAT TIME.
WE THEN PUT OUR WHR MEMBERSHIP FOR SALE AND NEVER HAD ONE HIT ON IT AFTER THREE YEARS. THEY TOLD ME THAT WHR WAS
CLOSE TO BANKRUPTY.
I RETURNED TO TRAVELING AND FOUND OUT THAT THE PARK IN SALOME WAS NOW OWNED BY ENCORE AND WAS GOING STRONG WITH RVer,s AND ACTIVITIES.
HEARD SOME REAL HORROR STORIES ABOUT WHR AND HOW THEY WERE LETTING THEIR PARKS RUN DOWN AND WERE UP FOR SALE.
WENT BY CASA GRANDE AFTER CHRISTMAS TO CHECK OUT MY HOME PARK AND IT ONLY HALF FULL. I WENT TO THE WHR OFFICE AND GOT YELLED AT FOR GOING IN THE WRONG DOOR. A LADY THEN ESCORTED ME INSIDE THE MAIN HALL TO ANSWER MY QUESTIONS. SHE SAID THAT MY HOME PARK WAS SOLD LAST FRIDAY. I ASKED TO GET A REFUND ON MY MEMBERSHIP AND SHE TOLD TO CONTACT MEMBERSHIP SERVICES BUT ALSO NOTED THAT THE NEW OWNER WERE GOING TO HONOR WHR MEMBERSHIPS AND PLANNING MAJOR UPGRADES TO THE PARK.
I CALLED COLORADO AND THEY SAID NO REFUNDS WERE BEING MADE AND THAT THE WOMAN AT THE WHR OFFICE IN CASA GRANDE WAS WRONG.
SO AS IT STANDS NOW I AM OUT MY $7500 MEMBERSHIP AND AM NOT PAYING MY YEARLY FEES.
IT IS CHEAPER FOR ME TO PAY FOR A MONTH AND NOT PAY ANY YEARLY FEES TO
AOR OR WHR. THEY HAVE HAD THEIR 15 MINUTES IN THE LIMELIGHT.
I DONT WANT TO HERE ABOUT THE ECONOMY AFFECTING THEIR SELLING OFF THEIR PARKS.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Roy & Karen Davis 2-1-12  
We had a 5 year membership purchased in 2003. We were enticed by the sales pitch. Improvements/additions to the entertainment and activities at the home site would be made to the park every year. We looked forward to becoming members of Woodlands on the Lake in Michigan. My husband is an electrician and we were also told when improvements were made to the campgrounds, management would hire members who have the the skills and are licensed to do the work. The first year there were NO IMPROVEMENTS...NONE. The second year...Nothing and so on...FOR FIVE YEARS!
What a waste of money. I wouldn't
recommend this place or any WHR facilities to my worst enemy.
What an expensive lesson learned!
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST mathilda white 1-14-12  
We bought our WH times share back in the mid 90's in order to use a park near Bass Lake, CA. which sounded great at the time because every year up to that point we traveled to Bass Lake, CA every year. In just a few years after we bought into it, the park was sold. Then we were reassigned to a park in CO., and a ugly, unkept park at that. They told us no other home parks were available. What really stinks is that at the same time, they tried to sell additional services, such as golf, pontoon boats and such, which were available at the original park at that time, not in CO. How can CO. such as Western Horizons get away with such lies and dishonesty?
Re: WH / Indian Waters TJA aka Bald Eagle 1-28-12  
Just an FYI We spent 2 nights at Indian Waters in early Jan. We are not members of WH. I understand that this park is one that was sold. It was very well groomed and the staff were excelent but very expensive which probably explains why it was empty. We were thinking we may want to join WH but reading all these comments we have changed our minds. Maybe they will get their finances sorted in the near future.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Rellis Voth 6-25-12  
Would love to hear about Blue Mesa near Gunnison Co. Thanks you. Rellis
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Mary 7-9-10  
We would be glad to join a class action suit also
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Tina Lynn 1-7-15  
I have read through most of these posts. We bought the membership in 2004 paid $4000 We had a Promissory note for $500 18 months after the purchase of the membership for any new parks to be added. We paid out life time dues for 2007. We initially were very pleased with the membership and gave out referrals to potential members. Things started to change around 2009. The parks in Washington were sold. Then St. George went, followed by Salome and Benson. There was a very good article in 2010 by Rex Vogel written in RV Net with some various good comments mostly complaints.
We had a run around wits Marsha the bitch when we ask for some information about AOR and she was not interested in helping us. She was verbally abusive and was trying to force us to spend $3000 on some stupid upgrade. You don't get a sale when you abuse your clients.
When we stayed at Indian Waters a sales lady came to our rig 2010/2011 wanting to sell us a upgrade to go from park to park. She started to extoll the benefits of the planned improvements at the park, how this new partner Jim Loken was taking on would do all these wonderful thing. Our antennae went up. The park was sold? In 2 weeks it was official. We never spent that additional money that we may need to buy a TT resale membership. We would be very angry now if we had allowed Loken et al. To pick our pockets once again. We are tired of the lies that WHR has made and continues to make. Lynne Berry wake up and see the truth. You don't like the negative publicity, then do something to turn the system around. You promised to keep the southwestern resorts because that was where members wanted to stay! Well, what in hell happened to Indian Waters, Desert Pools, Casa Grande and Eherenburg. What is left? Not much! We paid out lifetime dues an then you increased user fees, charged annual reservation fees. We already pay a per AOR reservation fee. We probably broke even on our membership but what we object to is the principal of the scam you are running. You had a lot of members 10 years ago. Where did the money go? Has Jim salted it away hiding it? Is he a lousy business person? Cash Flow problems? Is there truth to the fact that he still is tied in with RV Management. (Indian Waters, the Winery and Casa Grande) We have been told their corporate office is in Gunnison. Lately we met a couple who were given a referral by LaMesa to Blue Mesa. They got suckered in to,spending $4000 on a membership to Blue Mesa (WHR restructuring to all parks as standing alone) what they got was 1 home park plus affiliate memberships to ROD and AOR. In 2014. They were told about the 200 parks they could use. When they tried to book Ramona on ROD they learned that they were WHR and they had to call WHR and use AOR. Tacked on to the $11 daily rate they had another $5. They do pay annual dues to Blue Mesa if $399. Hefty for a 1 horse park. When they realized they were taken they were angry. We got ask by a couple touring in Pilot Knob 2 years ago if we recommended the membership. We very carefully told them. We bought in 2004 and it had worked for us, there were 22 parks and at that point there were less than 10 left. We asked them where they were from? They answered WA, we let them know those parks were all sold. We suggested they should do their own research to determine if the system will work for them. We stopped giving out referrals in 2009. Our conscience would not allow us to do so. We know investors are out of their money. We had great difficulty making the system work this year. It is time for us to look for something else. It is time Jim Loken is honest and tells the members what exactly he is doing. Most people are mature intelligent adults. We prefer truth, not lies or fairy tales. As for a class action suit, that requires a steering group to get it off the ground. Get people to sign up and pay an enrolment fee of say $100 and get a lawyer who will take the case on contingency. Don't be surprised if Jim has hidden the money. He must have had a good take during good years. I would be interested in knowing if Jim is involved with RV management. Would the IRS know that.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Richard Cadle 3-26-15  
I am looking for a Western Horizon Resort membership, If your fees are paid up I will pay you $1000 (the going price) and pay the $639 transfer fee.

Richard k7sjg@msn.com
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Mike 5-26-14  
WHR is just a ripoff, Contact me to join in on any action against WHR I paid $5000.00 plus buying lifetime membership. For a good deal join Passport America $44.00 a year, the 50% discount will pay for the $44.00 after just a couple of use's. Now that's a bargain!!!
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Mike 5-26-14  
Please contact me to join in any action against WHR. What a ripoff it is. I was told that my Children would inherit my membership. What membership? Anyone wanting a good deal on camping should join Passport America for 44.00 a year.We use it all the time, anywhere we go and the savings the first couple of times used will pay for your 44.00 membership fees.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Cindy Burningham 8-7-12  
We visited Western Horizon's Blue Mesa ranch last week. We stayed in a cabin as part of our cabin package. Our home park is now Blue Mesa as Saint George was sold out from under us.

Up till this weekend we have always enjoyed the trips. The manager at Blue Mesa has either had a really bad week or is just a bitter and angry person.

I booked a cabin and told them i was bringing my Tiny ShihTzu dogs.

When we arrived the cabin was still dirty, big dust bunnies and cobwebs in the bedrooms and it looked as though someone had thrown up over the back deck outside. The front doorframe was busted in and the door did not close properly. We are camping so I didn't make a big deal of this. I did let the front desk know about the door and stated I wanted them to know so I wouldn't be held responsible for this.

I swept the floor, covered the couch and pulled the bedding off the beds and replaced it with what we brought. 5 days went fine and no issues.

When we checked in there was a notice about a fire ban. We also talked to a fellow camper and he stated a friend had been given a ticket and charged a $500 fine.

As far as I know the ban was still in effect on that night. I walked to the park to get my children and noticed a family with a campfire. I stopped by their site and told them about the fire ban and what I had been told from the other camper about his friends fine. I was only trying to be helpful and told them I just thought they should know.

The next morning while I was out showering the manager went to our cabin and freaked out on my 14 year old daughter about me telling campers to put out their fires. She then saw the dogs and said we were not allowed to have them at the cabin. We had 4 tiny ShihTzu's and she stated regulations only allowed 2. We were not told this or even asked when making reservations.

When my daughter relayed the info I thought she was exaggerating and just creating drama and let it go. I didn't even know at that time who may have stopped by.

The next morning I was checking out. I swept the floors and washed the bedding which had been on the beds when we did our laundry. I wiped everything down and spot mopped the floors where my kids had spilled etc.

When I was done I made a comment to my mother in once of the campsites how much cleaner it was then when we checked in.

When I returned my key I was greeted by the manager. She was in my face and throwing a fit about the campground fires and how I had no right to tell anyone anything, I did not own this campground, I was not in management etc. Every time I tried to say anything to explain I was cut off and she would start again. Then she started about the dogs. I really did not want to argue with her and just said OK I'm sorry and was willing to chock it up to a bad day.

About 45 mites after I left the campground I get a call from her on my cell phone. My daughter answered and said I was driving. She told my daughter to get me on the phone. She then started to yell at me on the phone and say that my dogs had trashed the cabin and we were being fined $100 and banned from using the cabins. She said there would be a note in our file and we could only use the RV sites after this fine was paid and we were not allowed to bring our dogs back to the campground.

I was dumbfounded. She stated they had vomited and pooped all over and trashed the cabin completely. I have brought these same dogs to many of their cabins for about 8 years. NONE OF WHAT SHE SAID WAS TRUE. I know we cleaned the cabin before we left. The only dirty part was outside over the back deck where it looked as if someone had thrown up which was there when we arrived.

I tried to call member services and ask for JIm Loken. I was given a number for Lynn Berry. When I call it states that no messages can be left and call again another time. I have tried 4 times now.

I am just shocked. I am positive the cabin was clean. We still have a few years cabin and boat packages left, We also have paid lifetime dues. This to me is unreal. So if you are reading this Lynn or Jim contact me at cyburham@me.com or call Cindy 801 231-4853. I have no idea why this women is so bitter and angry. Ill let everyone here know if I hear from them or if they make this right. There is no way I owe them $100 and we should not be banned from anything.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Member Smith 3-17-14  
Western Horizons Desert Pools is run down, only one hot tub working, many plumbing issues, does not qualify as a "resort" by any interpretation of the word. WHR owns maybe 6 campgrounds; all the rest have been sold.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Ralph 12-7-11  
Can anyone tell me the latest closures of parks and the status on the class action lawsuit
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Rhonda 7-8-12  
We were sent to a Rockport TX Location after they sold the Lake Conroe Resort. We did not go for 5 years because of the inconvenience but paid our dues. We just went and visited the Resort to discover that Western Horizons only has a couple of sites left and Rockport is not Western Horizons. We were told it would be wise to stop paying our membership and cut our losses. We were also told that some of the land had been taken away for non payment of taxes.I am very interested in a class action suite. I believe in Karma and I believe Jim Loken,Lynne Berry, and all the the scammers he has hired will eventually have to lie in the bed they made. The sad part is we all invested in something we thought would be good for our families and our future to find out it was all a big scam. Here's to Karma!
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Jodie 8-25-10  
Thank everyone for the posts we just stayed at the colorado Blue Mesa Resort after the purchase of our camper. The camping company gave us four free nights (so we thought). On check in they made an appointment to come speak with them. We went to the sales pitch I was upfront to begin with told him this is our very second camping trip first one did not go well so we still dont know if we like camping. After I made that comment the sales person turned to the wall and said he may aswell speak to the wall. The lack of respect blew me away. He started getting loud and rude that was enough for me. I purchased a discount passport for half price camping fees including the Western Horizons so I pay $15:00 pre night to stay but with membership you still pay $6:00. I have no dues, no transfur fees and not out a bucket load of money. Do the math how much money do you spend camping? I bet its not asmuch as a membership with all the hidden fees.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Dale 12-8-10  
Benn a member for over 10 years and had the cabin package. Used the parks only 4 times and now our home park has been sold from under us. Joining a tent/small rv camp park is offered. What? Where is all the anual money and all that up front money? Join me in on the class action solution.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST David Slika 8-18-10  
I want to join the class action lawsuit also! I have not been happy with the WHR experience for quite sometime now. They also have not taken care of the volunteers who work for them. We ended up having to pay federal taxes out of our own pocket for that experience. Anybody know how to get out of paying the annual dues?? or how to sell the membership?
David Slivka (Disgruntled Postal Employee...retired)
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Carole Kasprzyk 8-15-10  
My husband and I just bought into Western Horizon in March 2010. Should have found this site first. One of the reasons we did, is because they owned Tall Chief in Fall City, Wa. We started full timing in Sept. last year and wanted to be closer to our girls in the summer months.

When we checked in to Tall Chief on Friday, we were told this park is no longer owned by Western Horizon. The only reason they let us stay was because Thousand Trails now owns the park and we have that membership too. So with many of there parks being sold out from under us, what are we to do?



We also signed a foolish agreement to try and get someone else to buy in and they would forgive $1,000 off the cost of our contract. From all the complaints I have seen on this web-sight, I can see that is really going to happen. What happens to the memberships to AOR, ROD etc. bought with Western? If they go belly up, will we loose these other clubs?

If anyone is serious about a class action suit, count us in. $5,000 up front and $1,000 due in March and we won't get what we thought we were buying makes us ready to take them on.

Please feel free to contact us. I have talked to members here at Tall Chief and they have been telling us horror stories. This was the first we had heard of the sale. No notification was ever sent to us.

Carole
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Cindy Sherman 7-26-11  
I am very disappointed that so many of our parks are closingwithout being notified exact of course to collect annual dues. Please count me in on a class action suit.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Mile High Guy 8-1-10  
We have been members for several years and had a good time at Gunnison, Benson AZ, Ramona Ca and are going to Camp Verde this fall. We have seen various properties and they all look ok. We have not had any of the bad problems others have seemed to have. The properties are older and we have noticed better properties, but at higher prices. We have a cabin membership and used it several times, incudig Ramona Canyon. No Cockroaches though. All in all a good membership, not great, but good.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Larry 8-1-10  
Romona Canyon new? NOT! It's old, worn out, bug infested and pitiful. The fire never reach the resort so it's the same old typical unmaintained WHR resort.

We decided this Spring to use one of our free cabin weeks at Romona Canyon while we checked out San Diego and vicinity. What a mistake that was! The park model unit they placed us in was old, dirty and the first night we discovered it was infested with Cockroaches. That's right....Cockroaches. I got up in the middle of the night and they were everywhere, sink, bathroom, walls kitchen counters...everywhere.

The bathroom toilet also leaked and ran all night every 15 minutes.

We complained (of course we did) and they sent a maintenance guy in when we left for the day. The next night, same thing. We asked to be moved but no, they sent the guy in the next day as well. next night, better but still not perfect. Since we didn't seem to have much choice since we had no other place to stay (we flew down and had a rental car) we toughed it out.

Next time I'll spend the money and stay in a Hotel.

NEVER again will we stay in a cabin of part model in a WHR.

Larry & Linda
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST carlyn 1-10-11  
Have been lied too,fooled,taken and am interested in class action suit with the rest of you.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Carol Stewart 3-1-11  
Hi! Does anyone know yet if a class action suit has been started? Seems like a lot of interest but... I also have complaints. Was funny about the comment from Camp Verde...was that Virgil by any chance??? We had the same experience but he walked out on us and slammed the door! I am paid up and lifetime dues paid also, so could just stop using it, but at a great expense! Also, reservation fee! How do you make reservations w/o paying a fee??? I also only got 1/2 payment for having my sister join (I was shocked when she did) because it was a limited membership. I paid $500 extra in 2004 for "all future" parks and all they have done is sold off 8 parks and NOT REPLACED as their contract specifies they must. SOOO, another unhappy customer with the usual generic answer from 'corporate'!
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Rebecca Sanislo 6-1-11  
Sign me up if there is a class action suit in the works.I am sure they knew in 2008 that they were going broke when we bought our package, western horizon ocean shores was our home park, not a word of notice to say they were selling. tho in the past 30 years that I went to this park under different owners not much had changed, it was and could have been a real jewel of a park. The laundry rooms and shower rooms were a disgrace, the past few years the staff didnt care because they knew the owners didnt care either.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Bonnie & Larry Christoffersen 1-15-11  
Please count us in on any class suit!
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Tom Tucker 2-23-11  
I think WESTERN Horizons is in financial difficulty and I put a halt on my interest after listening to their presentation. Parks are not maintained equal to the 17000 members they have that paid $5000.00 each supposedly.. That is 85,000,000.00. Where is it?
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Tom Tucker 2-23-11  
Thanks for the Blog.
I attended a presentation and then I returned to my unit and read this blog.
Upon looking around the Desert Pool site prior to the presentation I didn't feel the area was as spic and span as it should be. Sort of dumpy however after attending the presentation and being quoted prices without Coast to Coast or Sunbelt, -then learning of the sale of two resorts and reading this blog - I put a halt on all consideration of Western Horizon. It sort of appears like WH is in financial trouble? Picked up stakes - moved down to a professional RV Resort that honored my Good Sam Membership and AAA. What a difference in class. Cost a little more but worth it.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Hal Ryoppy 2-3-11  
We are also dissappointed in Western Horizons as they have sold off our two favorite parks. Tall Chief and St George. We were offered a single park membership in Camperland parks in Utah, but instead, we transferred our home park to Pahrump. That's a nice park and should stay as one of WH better parks.
The 900 members of WH that had Tall Chief as their home park are being offered a single park membership in one of the eight parks from K&M in Washington. If the member would want the other 7 Washington parks, they would have to pay 1,995.00 for this membership in K&M. K&M has done a good job and their parks are nice and well-run. FYI
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Gary Cooper 1-30-11  
I see on this forum many people seeking to join a class-action lawsuit against WHR. Has anyone actually sought the advice of any attorney yet. I would like to know if such a class-action has been started yet, there seems to be plenty of cause of action.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Bruce 11-8-08  
What do you want for the membership?
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST James Allison 8-9-10  
I paid over $3500.00. Make me an offer over $100.00 and it is yours. Dues are paid up.

Jim Allison
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Mike 12-20-08  
Bruce,
You want to know what people want?
I would have to say:
When I call I don't want a voice mailbox that is full and can not take anymore messages.
I road in the camp grounds that will not damage my RV when I drive on it.
Clean bathrooms that work just like the ones in our RV or home.
Water, Electric, and sewer hookups at the sites that work.
Yes it takes a LARGE investment to build or bring a camp ground up to speed, so if you don't have the money then don't buy the place.
Later
Mike
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Linda 2-20-09  
Western Horizons is selling lots in a bunch of the southwestern parks - ten at a time. From 29K to 49K..this should be the most serious discussion at this point for all members. Are the parks going to just disappear?
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Rose 1-3-11  
Tim,

Just read your message and am interested in abandoning my contract. I just want to know if you have experienced any ramifications. My concern is that it would hurt my credit rating. Any advice?

Rose
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST carol cross 6-7-10  
Members since 2003: Very disappointed in what we have let ourself get into. A lot of money for nothing. Called Rockport and was informed the place we usually stay by the lake is no longer available: And they no longer have on-site storage:
Where is the maintenance money going? Well, I think it's not to Rockport:
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Teresa Byrne 4-20-10  
Yes we would be interested in a civil suit. This man has sold our home park out from under us twice now. One at Conroe,TX and now at Rockport, TX. We are sick of this and wonder where our dues are going because they are not spent on the parks. This has been the worst investment for us
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Sally and Fred Lohse 6-21-15  
We would be happy to join in the class action lawsuit against Western Horizon
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Zana 9-3-10  
We are also very disappointed in the sale of Tall Chief since it was one of the parks that motivated us in buying this membership--our daughter lives in Seattle and there's not much else any closer. The deal is that it is now Encore, a privately owned park open to the public. They are honoring WH reservations for one stay only and then you are out unless you want to sign up for their special deal--no up-front cost to join Thousand Trails (which is owned by their parent company) but those who are already TT cannot stay here--this is just for WH members. You also get other parks included, the number depending on if you choose Northwest or Southwest package. You pay nothing until next May and then start paying $499 per year in dues. They now own 4 parks previously owned by WH and who knows where it's going to stop. We're interested in the lawsuit possibility also as we have been cheated out of these parks under our original contract. Oh, and by the way, I informed the last reservations clerk of all of this as none of them have a clue as to what's going on.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Kent & Kathy Switzer 5-31-10  
Howdy, My wife and I just recently received a yellow postcard from WHR HQs. It stated that we were to attend a membership meeting to review recent changes within WHR. The outside of the postcard stated that this would be our "Last Attempt" to notify of of these meetings.

Newsflash WHR...this is the ONLY attempt you folks have sent to us regarding these changes.

We've only been to the Ramona Canyon facility, signed up for a 5 year trail membership. Then the fire swept through there and heard that nothings been redone or modernized since the fire.

INHO, all it seems that WHR management wants is our money without doing anything for it, nor in upgrading anything about their properties.

My wife and I saren't impressed with anything about WHR and will not be renewing with this outfit.

Sincerely,

Kent & Kathy Switzer
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Brenda 11-22-10  
We stayed at WH Camp Verde through ROD and was asked to attend a WH presentation. The sales rep was irrational, offensive, confrontational, beligerant and just downright angry from the time we entered the room. He never started a presentation. After he started verbally abusing me and my husband we decided to end the fiasco. As we were leaving the office admin in the front office apologized and said she would tell the manager. She heard his yelling through walls to the outer office. Sounds like this sales rep has been representative throughout the comments above. Nice place huh?
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Diana Larson 9-18-10  
I have a K/M camping membership as well as a Western Horizon. I have to say that we have not used our Western Horizon in a while and was not aware that Tall Chief had been sold. When speaking to a K/M rep I was advised that the word out there is that Western Horizon is on the way out. Does anyone know how may parks they have sold off in the since 2003?
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Kathy 9-10-10  
I have been a member of Western Horizons for over 10 years. I use it all the time. I enjoy it alot and am glad we joined. Great People. We pay 3 dollars a night and I'm not complaining
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Scott Mishler 9-20-10  
Went on free weekend to a run down "resort" over run with ants. The bathrooms were filthy. The "Fishing" we were promised were 2 small algae infested ponds that were nothing more than a joke. The $300 visa gift card that was promised turned out to be a rebate program where if you spend $100 a month they will give you a rebate of $20 a month for 15 months. The lap top they promised is a 7 ", that you must pay $25 up front (non refundable and then a mysterious shipping and handling fee (based on where you live) that they wont disclose how much they will charge you. So glad we did not fall for their pitch and waste $9000. These people should be investigated for fraud. RUN AWAY! DO NOT EVEN ENTERTAIN THE THOUGHT OF GOING TO THEIR PRESENTATION.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Scott Mishler 9-20-10  
Went on free weekend to a run down "resort" over run with ants. The bathrooms were filthy. The "Fishing" we were promised were 2 small algae infested ponds that were nothing more than a joke. The $300 visa gift card that was promised turned out to be a rebate program where if you spend $100 a month they will give you a rebate of $20 a month for 15 months. The lap top they promised is a 7 ", that you must pay $25 up front (non refundable and then a mysterious shipping and handling fee (based on where you live) that they wont disclose how much they will charge you. So glad we did not fall for their pitch and waste $9000. These people should be investigated for fraud. RUN AWAY! DO NOT EVEN ENTERTAIN THE THOUGHT OF GOING TO THEIR PRESENTATION.
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Sherman and Yvonne rogers 12-7-10  
Yes we would be interested in a class action suit because when we purchased our membership in 2001 for a total of three thousand, six hundred, eighty four dollars, the representative put into the contract in wriitng that we could stay free at Pilot knob Desert Vista and Valley Vista. We have the copy of this contract.

After paying our annual dues each year we called about reservation for this year (We bought property in Florida in '03 and had been going down there each year knowing that eventually the long drive to Florida would get old and we would be using our Western Horizon membership again.

What a shock. Two of those three parks have been sold. We were never notified! We now, not only, do not have the properties available for our use, but we don't even have what was on our contract to sell to another!

It is possible that we were sold something which Western Horizon did not legally have the right to sell and in that case the contract itself might be invalid? I hear this is a possibility.

How can we sell that? We want our money back and they have yet to make any offer of compensation.

Sincerely, Sherman and Yvonne Rogers
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Sherman and Yvonne rogers 12-7-10  
Yes we would be interested in a class action suit because when we purchased our membership in 2001 for a total of three thousand, six hundred, eighty four dollars, the representative put into the contract in wriitng that we could stay free at Pilot knob Desert Vista and Valley Vista. We have the copy of this contract.

After paying our annual dues each year we called about reservation for this year (We bought property in Florida in '03 and had been going down there each year knowing that eventually the long drive to Florida would get old and we would be using our Western Horizon membership again.

What a shock. Two of those three parks have been sold. We were never notified! We now, not only, do not have the properties available for our use, but we don't even have what was on our contract to sell to another!

It is possible that we were sold something which Western Horizon did not legally have the right to sell and in that case the contract itself might be invalid? I hear this is a possibility.

How can we sell that? We want our money back and they have yet to make any offer of compensation.

Sincerely, Sherman and Yvonne Rogers
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Lynne Berry 11-2-11  
I am a long time employee of Western Horizon Resorts and have been through thick and thin with the company. I have been with them while the company was growing and now, at a time when we have had to tighten our belts. Western Horizon Resorts (WHR) has been operating since 1984 when we started with one resort in Gunnison, Colorado. We grew to 24 resorts at one time and now 27 years later we can still offer members access to 17 resorts. Even McDonald’s has closed some of its store for no productivity. We may have become a little smaller but it is likely the decision to slow down now that will carry us farther into the future.

I understand members can become frustrated, but I also understand WHR’s current situation. The economy, if you aren’t aware and I can’t imagine anyone who isn’t, has had its affects on the membership camping industry. WHR is not alone in its struggles, but I assure you, membership camping is not going away. Membership camping is a practical, inexpensive method of enjoying the RV lifestyle.

WHR has chosen to sell off a few properties. Why? There isn’t enough business, after making every effort to improve the bottom line, to sustain the costs of operating specific resorts. Continuing to operate resorts that have negative cash flow is irresponsible and only serves to put the whole company in peril. WHR has made every effort to keep sites available at the properties we have sold. This may not be the same as owning the property and there may, on occasion, be more limited availability but it buys us time until we get past the economic downturn to try and turn the corner and start to grow again.

What would a lawsuit do for members and the company? Honestly, members wouldn’t recoup their money. The attorneys would be the only people who gain. Your membership would vanish and over a hundred people would lose their jobs. Nothing positive about this.

Here’s the problem we are dealing with right now. New member sales have slowed because the same people who would have been our customers in the past cannot afford to purchase a vacation camping membership now. These are people who have lost their jobs or, possibly their life savings. A few years ago these same people would have been excited to get into the RV lifestyle. Now they are more worried about paying their rent and not about enjoying the RV life. This not to say that there are not people out there that want to get on board, but it just means that we need to work harder to get these new members. Without new members, we cannot continue to operate.

WHR, like many companies, has felt the real world (the economy) affects on our business. I can assure you every move we make is our best effort to keep the company viable so we can continue to service the members in the best possible way far into the future.

Negative blogs make me crazy. Instead of the negative, which only serves to scare new members away, give us some positive feedback—something we can work with to move things in the right direction. WHR is not perfect and we may have made some mistakes along the way, but I am all ears. My email address is whrinfo@whrus.com. I look forward to your positive input.

Lynne Berry
Long time employee
Western Horizon Resorts
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Tina Lynn 1-7-15  
Lynne:
It is now 2015. WHR is rapidly disappearing. Tell the members what is going on, try being honest for a change.
Get your head out off your backside!
Re: Opinion: Western Horizons RV Membership is the WORST Carolyn K Hanson 3-6-14  
We would love to join any class action suit. We are platinum members and really feel cheated by all of the lies we were told when we plunked out $10,000 to become members. We get the creepiest spots, have to pay $35a and my@ night for any x tra nights and purchase favorite campgrounds have ben sold off. They appear not as kept also. I remember we were told our kids could take over when choose or Western Horizon will sell it for you. I doubt we could get'10 cents for it. Western Horizon owes us big time!
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