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Activists need (short) (bio) diesel bus Kevin s 9-2-02  
We are an activist collective that is looking for a shorter diesel bus to use as a cross country media activism tool.

We are going to convert it to run on used vege-oil from fast food places...basically unprocessed bio-diesel.

We are going to put some computers, low power fm, and other media equipment on board and do "anti corporate" media activism and outhreach at various demonstrations, gatherings, county fairs etc across the country...doing video screenings, uploading to websites etc.

It will be a working group of the global IndyMedia network. This is the main site, (there are about 90 local IMC sites now) -check out:
http://www.indymedia.org/

We are an all volunteer network, so we are trying to get hold of a donated diesel bus. A short school bus, or airport bus etc would be ideal. We are in the NE right now, but can probably pick up a running bus almost anywhere.

If someone wanted to donate a bus, and get tax credit, or 'publicity' in the activist world, we could put a 'thank you' on the website etc...not much maybe...but you would be doing a great help and service to alot of folks indirectly.

Any help, advice etc much appreciated.
Re: Activists need (short) (bio) diesel bus David 9-12-02  
Call Jamie Giberson @ Southampton Auto He has F350 Diesel Twp Elderly/Handicap Bus with blown engine in NJ.
He can also help with alt. fuel conversion.

609.859.3737
Re: Activists need (short) (bio) diesel bus Tom 9-2-02  
Hello I think that is a real cool idea. I LOVE my diesels and wouldn't trade them for anything else including jet turbines which CTA used on two of thier transits. I feel that if we can refine fast food fry oil that would be wonderful. If I were you I would look at a used Ford Econoline 350 shuttle bus, they are diesel small but large enough and come in some very good lengths They are also simpler than transits meaning no huge engine or air system or funky trannys also can be fixed by more people than bus type buses plus MUCH more economical than big buses. Also there is a place in Rolla Mo that sells school buses and have the t444e international engine and also smaller and simpler than the huge Detroits and the buses are usually under 5000 grand in the later diesel models. If you want more power for hills get a schoolie with one of my favorite engines the DT466 or DT466E they are sleeved (wet sleeve) 4 stroke heavy duty diesels and for a school bus they will have TONS of power to spare. my advice. Tom.
Re: Activists need (short) (bio) diesel bus kevin s 9-3-02  
Tom wrote: "If I were you I would look at a used Ford Econoline 350 shuttle bus, they are diesel small but large enough and come in some very good lengths"

tom, we actualy have a line on a ford shuttle bus at a wreckers near NYC! but...alas it is a gas motor, and we are now looking for a diesel to fit....
perhaps someone has a suggestion for the "right" motor under the circumstance..

thanks!
Re: Activists need (short) (bio) diesel bus Frank Snyder 9-3-02  
Simple answer, run the gas engine on Ethanol. But really, if you're trying to get the anti-corporate message across, "walk the walk"; use animals for transport, stay off the highways, live simply off of what you produce/grow yourself. In other words, don't employ the fruits of corporate America while spreading the anti-corporate message lest you be branded a hypocrite.
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